Comment by Naveen Krishna - Daiva Sangam

Comment by Naveen Krishna Dasa

Saturday, 10 March 2012 


RAVANA WILL KILL AND RAMA WILL KILL. BETTER TO BE KILLED BY RAMA

Dear Maharajas and Prabhus,
Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.

Today is Gour Purnima, a very auspicious day. I have been meaning to share
my thoughts on the statements about Rama and Ravana on Nov 10th, 1977 by His
Divine Grace Srila Prabhupada in Vrindavana. Since Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu
also manifested his Sadbhuja form as Lord Ramachandra, Lord Krishna and Lord
Caitanya, I thought it may be all right to write about this matter today.

We know that there are always hinderances in the mission of the Lord and his
devotees. It is just part of the manifest pasttimes of the Lord. So in the
mission of Lord Rama, the hinderance, for the glorification of the Lord and
to show the mercy of the Lord, we have the presence of Ravana.

In Srila Prabhupada's mission, he writes about the presence of envious
persons in the garb of devotees in Iskcon, and how we may deal with them.
But first we have to know who they are.

On Nov 10th 1977, Srila Prabhupada made the most direct statements about
such persons. This was within 48 hours of his stating several times, in
different ways, that he thought it possible that somebody was poisoning him.
As you know by now, the servants present there confirmed that Srila
Prabhupada thought he was being poisoned.

Here is a recap of that section, as directly quoted from the Bhaktivedanta
Archives Conversation books volume 36, page 378.

Jagadisa: Srila Prabhupada, can you tell us why you want to go on the
parikrama?
Tamal Krsna: This seems like suicide Srila Prabhupada, this program.It seems
to some of us like its suicidal.
Prabhupada: AND THIS IS ALSO SUICIDAL.
TKG: Hm. Prabhupada said, "AND THIS IS ALSO SUICIDAL". NOW YOU HAVE TO
CHOOSE WHICH SUICIDE.
Prabhupada: THE RAVANA WILL KILL AND RAMA WILL KILL. BETTER TO BE KILLED BY RAMA. EH? THAT MARICA-IF HE DOES NOT GO TO MISLEAD SITA, HE'LL BE KILLED BY RAVANA; AND IF HE GOES TO BE KILLED BY RAMA, THEN IT IS BETTER.

Page 380...After so many statements by others that he should not go on
parikrama.
Prabhupada: BUT I THINK I SHALL BE CURED...(by removing myself from my
caretakers and going on parikrama).

My comments:

First, on Nov 8th, Srila Prabhuapda, with his servants confirming, has
stated that it is possible that he has been poisoned by somebody. Hours
later, forensic experts confirm the whispers.."Its going down...the
poisons's going down". Now Srila Prabhupada states that he is being killed
by "Ravana", and that to stay there in the current situation is like
committing suicide, or being killed by Ravana. Instead if he is able to
leave the situation, even if he dies, then that is prefered because then he
would be die in the care of "Rama"..instead of in the care of "Ravana".
He confirms again a few minutes later that he will be cured by leaving that
situation and getting away on parikrama.

Here are the blatantly obvious questions:

  1. Who is the Ravana that Srila Prabhupada is stating will kill him?
  2. Why was TKG so cool and quick in his understanding that, "NOW YOU HAVE TO
  3. CHOOSE WHICH SUICIDE"? Such an astonishing statement! And why wasn't he, as Srila Prabhupada's caretaker, not immediately concerned as to why Srila Prabhupada thought that staying there was suicide; or to find out WHO WAS THE RAVANA?
  4. Is the RAVANA connection to the previous discussions about being poisoned not obvious?
  5. Why does Prabhupada compare himself to Marica? Does he know that his name will be used to mislead others by the Ravana in the future just like Marica was used to mislead Sita? Have we been mislead for years by the "Ravana" and his followers?
Note some of the pasttimes and ambitions of Ravana:
 
  1. Meaning of the word Ravana.."One who makes others cry"
  2. Dresses as a sannyasi to mislead Sita.
  3. Performs great austerities to achieve his purposes.
  4. Steals Sita...but only the false Sita.(Is there a false Iskcon in a similar way...stolen by Ravana?). Then what and where is the real Iskcon?
  5. Uses Marica to mislead Sita? (Has Prabhupada's name been used over and over again to cheat and mislead thousands of devotees?)
Finally, what would YOU have done if Srila Prabhupada was saying that by
leaving that situation with "Ravana" HE WOULD BE CURED? Beg him to stay
where he was? Why? Did the Kaviraja know better than Srila Prabhupada that
Srila Prabhupada desires were protested so strongly? Was there another
motive?

I hope you have had a nice Gour Purnima festival....whatever your situation
may be...and that you are resolved to help Srila Prabhupada save his
mission.

Your servant,
Naveen Krishna dasa..


Source:  http://prabhupadanugas.blogspot.ca/2012/03/ravana-will-kill-and-rama-will-kill.html 



When a Man is Poisoned

Table of Contents:
  1. Invocation
  2. Introduction
  3. Who was Srila Prabhupada?
  4. A Brief History of the Hare Krishna Movement
  5. An Introduction to the Phenomena of Reverse Speech
  6. The Evidence of Reverse Speech
  7. Conversations in Reverse Speech
  8. The Aftermath
  9. Srila Prabhupada's Departure
  10. Conclusion—The Challenge of the Truth

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